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Old 10-19-2011, 12:15 AM   #11
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You should have said that to Mawlana Abid Jalali at the debate!
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Old 10-19-2011, 12:19 AM   #12
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Shah Jee answer Kattars questions no point trying to divert abu Hasan. What next you going to say to kattar tuh kaparai karai jai lai wai nee?
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Old 10-19-2011, 12:55 AM   #13
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It's a declaration been put in the newspaper, after 10 days they put it in another newspaper (with different editors).

The statement has not been retracted or disowned in any way at all since.

...gulam, shut up if you cannot address a serious matter.
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Old 10-19-2011, 01:09 AM   #14
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Which alim made the declaration, abu Fazl?
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Old 10-19-2011, 02:44 AM   #15
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Originally Posted by ghulam e Ghaus
jab baraday baat kar rahey hon to bachon ko nahin bolna chahiye.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=hR4588WAMkg

You need to tell Tench Bhatwi Shah Sahib that you should zip it when attacking the Sunni Imam's. As for you trying to debunk Matla can't wait after seeing your class acts on DM
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Old 10-19-2011, 04:15 AM   #16
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GG said:
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and to add to that here is one from our very own brother:
in response to my statement some time ago:
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to reject a SaHiH hadith whose chain is rigorously authenticated, is kufr
what is your position concerning my statement above? are you for, or against it? if you think that my statement is a blunder, go ahead and prove it. and if you agree with me, then what is the point of citing it here? if you cannot answer these questions, then you better shut up.

please do not use the politician's device - be ambiguous and keep options open to jump to the other ship when it is convenient; tahir jhangvi does it unknowing that there is many a slip 'twixt the cup and the lip. you can probably rework a samuel johnson quote for that matter.

real men do not fear to take a stand and state it like men. i encourage you to be a man.

wa billahi't tawfiq.
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Old 10-19-2011, 04:22 AM   #17
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Oh là là!! someone has touched a raw nerve somewhere. you are soooooooo wound up ghulam e zidd. drink some ruh afza with some crushed ice, it will cool you down. I really feel sorry for you my dear brother. try using your 'own' brain for a day. write something. all you are is clips. clip this, clip that, exposed, breaking news, etc.

remember brother, dushman maray te khusi na karye, sajna wee marjana. I have decided that I will neither address nor reply to any of your things because sometimes x is a matter of facticity. Khuda Hafiz and Ya Ali madad! Haider! Haider! Haider!
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Old 10-19-2011, 04:25 AM   #18
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the last post was for ghulam so please have no ambiguities about that.

for AH:

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to reject a SaHiH hadith whose chain is rigorously authenticated, is
kufr

that is not correct. it is wrong and aginst established usul.
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Old 10-19-2011, 04:27 AM   #19
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GG said:
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that is not correct. it is wrong and aginst established usul.
so you have taken a stand.

now, prove it.
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Old 10-19-2011, 05:00 AM   #20
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Okay,

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to reject a SaHiH hadith whose chain is rigorously authenticated, is
kufr

a sahih hadith is khabr al-wahid. and khabr al-wahid is dhanni according to all the usulis. how can denial of dhanni be kufr.

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