Allama Saeed Asad Backs Molvi Ashraf Sialvi

[Muhammad Ali]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyz0vG6O1j4

[Muhammad Ali]

http://sunnaforum.com/threads/munazr...98/#post-12148

[Noori]

Allama Saeed Asad Backs Molvi Ashraf Sialvi

in what issue, what's wrong with hazrat allamah ashraf sialvi hafizahullah? i believe that he is pure sunni alim and author of many excellent books.

[ahlus-sunnah]

Originally Posted by Noori

in what issue, what's wrong with hazrat allamah ashraf sialvi hafizahullah? i believe that he is pure sunni alim and author of many excellent books.

Sidi Noori , I believe thats its The claim that the Holy Prophet Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam only found out that they were a Prophet after 40 years

[Noori]

I believe thats its The claim that the Holy Prophet Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam only found out that they were a Prophet after 40 years

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-GM_AUVeIE&feature=relmfu - nubuwwat kab mili

i listened to all 5 parts of this speech, he says that being given nubuwwah in aalam alarwah is a different issue, but in this world RasulAllah alaihi afDalus salaat wat-tasleem was given nubuwwah at the age of 40, and not before that. what is wrong with it?

[The Emir]

i listened to all 5 parts of this speech, he says that being given nubuwwah in aalam alarwah is a different issue, but in this world RasulAllah alaihi afDalus salaat wat-tasleem was given nubuwwah at the age of 40, and not before that. what is wrong with it?

Nubuwwah was declared at 40 - not given it - thats what the sunni position has always been has it not?

[Noori]

i don't think that it is a serious or fundamental issue, and perhaps only choice of words otherwise what i believe he says that;

(i)-Nabi-e-Karim alaihi afDalus salaat wat-tasleem was (given) nubuwwah first in alam-e-arwah
(ii)-since nubuwwah is not kasbi therefore near Allah subhanu wa ta'ala a nabi is always nabi in alam e arwah, and from the day he was born until the age he was given shari'ah
(iii)-though nabi only becomes aware when an angle is sent to him and he is given shari'ah, or you can say that nubuwwah was not assigned until that age

i don't think there is much problem with it, but i would like to see what our aslaaf have said about it (a) whether RasulAllah alaihi afDalus salaat wat-tasleem was a prophet by birth and he had a shari'ah (b) or he was given nubuwwah at the age of 40 (that is what we have been reading)

[Noori]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=n45G_snYL6c

i listened to all the parts of this reply too, he sounds quite reasonable except at a couple of places, for example when he talked about the event of mithaq, it seemed as if hazrat ashraf siyalvi sahab and this brother don't believe that they were nabi at that time, but it is not very clear.

what is shah sahab's hafizahullahu ta'ala response to the dalail of hazrat ashraf siyalvi hafizahullahu tala'a and what are the implications on him?

[Muhammad Ali]

Mufti Sahib believe the Prophet Sallalaho Alaihi Wa Sallam wasn't a prophet until 40 years. The other Brother you referred to is Mufti Sahib's student. Check this thread for more information Brother:

http://sunnaforum.com/threads/munazr...98/#post-12148

All Sunni Scholars disagree, even Pir Abdul Qadir Sahib!

[Noori]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...v=iU8S7svlDAs#!

i have seen this thread but i am sorry to say that at several places very bad language was used,for example in this video at 10:20 and 23:35, i don't know who those personalities are. astaghfirullahi al-azeem. whereas the student of hazrat ashraf siyalvi sahab has been very polite and decent, though at some places he made some sarcastic remarks but not like those made from fellows with shah sahab.

note that before this thread i only knew hazrat ashraf siyalvi through his books, this is first time i saw him in a video, and came to know about this issue.

i would like to see the dalaail from shah sahab's side.