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Old 04-30-2012, 04:50 PM   #21
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Great. And if sh Muhammad was satisfied with the response he received then so should everyone else be.

brother, how did you conclude that sh.Yaqubi was satisfied ?

please do not take offence, but it seems that you reserve your critical thinking only for the wahabis. why not use the same yardstick for everyone?

you can read books of fiqh and creed in their original language but why, when it comes to certain personalities, do you prefer to wait till forever before forming an opinion?
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Old 04-30-2012, 04:50 PM   #22
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And if sh Muhammad was satisfied with the response

The person who said Shaykh Muhammad demanded an explanation never said he was satisfied with the response.

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then so should everyone else be.

It seems you too suffer from the same fallacy that it is people who validate beliefs and not vice versa.

Whatever the case, nothing can be said until KS says what exactly was told to Shaykh Muhammad about hanson, what exactly he demanded of hanson, and what exactly hanson responded with.

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nit picking of one or two lines from here or there to make a mountain out of a molehill.

One or two lines of kufr are enough to show the state of a person and indeed according to hadith I'm sure you know of, just one sentence is enough to land someone 70 years deep into hellfire.

No one on that blog made a mountain of a molehill.

Those extracts from mark hanson's buddha essay show his true state and his true inclinations.

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you are baselessly attacking people's lineage (which has severe consequences in shari'ah)

I'm attacking the inbuilt mechanism that some people have, according to which Sayyid status automatically means a person can't be deviant. I'm not attacking his ancestry per se and believe it is irrelevant to his misguidance and deviancies.

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calling muslims names like 'jimmy swaggarts' (who was an adulterous non-muslim preacher i believe)

You once again missed the point and are repeating the mistake of the wahabis. When someone tells them, 'your books are full of lies', they say 'but they have Quranic verses and also ahadith. You have no shame to speak in this manner about Quran and ahadith.'

The larger point is that jimmy swaggert was/is a conman and so are these people who have shown themselves to be conmen.

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not sure why you are so full of hatred brother -

My love and hate is dictated by the 3aqidah of the Ahlus Sunnah, which these people have shown to disrespect, disregard, distort and dishonor, either directly, or knowingly supporting those who do (such as gibril knowingly supporting nazim).

The reasons exist on various places on this forum. You are welcome to show me how and why those people do not violate the Ahlus Sunnah or how, why and when they have withdrawn support of such people.

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your behaviour is unbecoming of a muslim.

I believe a Muslim should state the truth, call a spade a spade and not be afflicted by political correctness, and should not compromise on the 3aqidah of the Ahlus Sunnah only out of fear of hurting egos or going against the status quo of blind sheeple.

It is definitely very unbecoming of a modern, western Muslim afflicted with the fluffy good manners of political correctness, perennialism, pleasing people, and compromising on the 3aqidah of the Ahlus Sunnah but absolutely no respect towards the 3aqidah of the Ahlus Sunnah, and openly lying against the verses of the Quran and/or the Prophet.

Sorry, but I don't subscribe to group hugs and chant wah-wah and masha Allah at the emperor's new clothes. Unlike many people that frequent this forum, I don't enjoy being willfully blind at the reality of some so called shuyukh, and look the other way and whistle!

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I wouldn't even expect muslims to treat non-muslims in such a manner.

The company and association of ahlul bid3ah, zanadiq and mulhideen is much worse than that of original kafirs and the ways of our elders are to show no pacifism to such people.
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Old 04-30-2012, 05:27 PM   #23
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Sh Yaqoubi has demanded an explanation. So far none has been given.

However, some Ulama of Syria have given fatwas. They will be released shortly bi idhnillah, inshaAllah.


Considering the slaughter in Halab and Damascus, the Ulama have still responded. This is a sign of their bravery.
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Old 04-30-2012, 05:35 PM   #24
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brother, how did you conclude that sh.Yaqubi was satisfied ?

please do not take offence, but it seems that you reserve your critical thinking only for the wahabis. why not use the same yardstick for everyone?

you can read books of fiqh and creed in their original language but why, when it comes to certain personalities, do you prefer to wait till forever before forming an opinion?

Typical faqir. He was also spreading the so called views of Dr. Buti on Imkan al Kadhib for years on all the forums

http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/arch...hp/t-1166.html
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