Azharis and Dr. Tahir

[Abdul Mustafa 786]

Any comments on this Youtube video snippet:
Vice-Chancellor Al-Azhar University (Egypt) Declares Dr. Tahir-ul-Qadri as Shaykh-ul-Islam: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHot5-3dG4A

[Ghulam]

Is Shaykh Hamza still the Vice Chairman of the Global Centre for Renewal and Guidance? This is where the great Jurists pass Fatwa according to Fiqh Aqalliyyat.

Sidi Nuh is not happy with these great scholars doing Ijtihad and global Tajdid

http://al-miftah.blogspot.co.uk/2007...er-uk.html?m=1

[Ghulam]

“So when people see that the Muslims are trying to say that Islam is flower power, Islam is a new vitamin packed cereal or Islam is a new species of Christianity or whatever they are saying to try to win the hearts of the Christians and Jews, You are not gonna win their hearts until you quit making sajdah with your head upon the ground my friends in that sense but stand your ground and say this is the way I am, like it or don’t like it.”

[faqir]

Originally Posted by AbdalQadir

i don't know if the site is bonafide or not, but i can vouch for the fact that tahir lies about his credentials (of course the other questions and points are also very sensible and expose his jahalah, status, and worth, and if anyone has even an iota of common sense, he should see how/why there is no answer for 'just who conferred the title of Shaykh-ul-Islam on him?').

the same is the case with others like nazim, gibril haddad, hisham kabbani, mark hanson, and tim winters. (nazim too claims ancestry to Ghawth-e-A3zdham, just for good measure)

i personally know "students" of hanson who claim to have studied from this and that university or under this and that popular shaykh from yemen, mauritania etc. and the shaykhs haven't even ever known them or they have not been able to produce university certificates/diplomas etc. in fact one of them is a jailbird who had been in and out of courts for a fraud involving a couple of hundred thousand big ones!

these people are all a bunch of 'islamic' jimmy swaggerts preying on the faiths of common people!

al-salam `alaikum

you are baselessly attacking people's lineage (which has severe consequences in shari'ah), calling muslims names like 'jimmy swaggarts' (who was an adulterous non-muslim preacher i believe) and worse. I wouldn't even expect muslims to treat non-muslims in such a manner. not sure why you are so full of hatred brother - i think you should take a break from forums to calm down and do something more beneficial. your behaviour is unbecoming of a muslim.

[Ghulam]

Faqir what do you of the content of http://adoptingorthodoxy.wordpress.com ?

[Ghulam]

Do you think Shaykh Hamza is bad as Qaid e Inqilab Dr Tahir?

[faqir]

Originally Posted by Ghulam

Faqir what do you of the content of http://adoptingorthodoxy.wordpress.com ?

rubbish. nit picking of one or two lines from here or there to make a mountain out of a molehill. i can't even be bothered to read past the first page. its not surprising many speakers don't allow the public to record their talks until they've gone over it and checked and corrected it where necessary. anyone can make a mistake - why doesnt this blog writer ask the shaykh himself openly what his view is on these points of contention?

[Ghulam]

Why didn't you ask Qaid e Inqilab before you started this thread?

What do you make of Shaykh Hamza's comments below (taken from the blog)

“One of the things our Abrahamic Traditions suffer from is exclusivism. Many of the people who adhere to Abrahamic teachings whether they be Jews, Christians or Muslims, tend to see themselves as having some monopoly on the truth, and monopoly on the truth as far as any real Abrahamic traditions would say would be God’s alone.”
“If we accept or assume the possibly that He did speak, the divine spoke through these revelations of the Old Testamant, the Older Testament, the New Testament then the Quran, which each one has their claim. If we do accept that certainly God has many voices, and to claim any one voice to be the exclusive voice of God is a very dangerous thing to do.”
“I’ve been in my share of exclusivist tradition, when I first became Muslim that was the type of Islam I was introduced to… when you begin to look at the nuances of our traditions you find is that they are deeply compatible at those most basic fundamental levels as they are teaching universal truths, and they would not resonate in the millions of hearts if that were not true.”

[kattarsunni]

Faqir Sahib, Mark Hanson's defense is of Dante's insults to our Messenger sallAllahu alayhiwasallam is what we should term as 'rubbish'.

Was Mufti Ahmad Hassoun contacted before he was condemned? And with Hassoun no one has his speech where he made derogatory comments.

Irrelevant to what you think of the blog, the content cannot be ignored. And for your info Zaytuna Institute, its affiliates and Hamza Yusuf have been contacted on this issue.

Shaykh Muhammad alYaqoubi has been notified by many people, and according to (name edited) Shaykh Yaqoubi has phoned Hanson demanding an explanation.

[faqir]

Great. And if sh Muhammad was satisfied with the response he received then so should everyone else be.