Banning books and freedom of expression

[Wadood]

carl sagan, the atheist yehudi, insulted HabeebAllah salAllahu 'alayhi wa alihi wa sallam. So throw his books out into the sewer.

[naqshbandijamaati]

AQ

i found a few via shaykh google but they are in arabic a language i lack.
i shall get back to you on this eventually i promise...

[AbdalQadir]

jazak Allah bro. a positive post by you in this thread and i pray to Allah, what ever you research, benefits you to the maximum extent, along with the rest of us.

i will keep my promise and reply to some of your other posts on this thread soon in sha Allah.

[AbdalQadir]

ok brother NJ, in response to some of your other posts.

It is a weak faith indeed which can be so easily shaken by a book or two!

i don't see any contradiction between reading books of the philosophers/scientists etc. or any other book and believing that salvation is from Allah's Grace.

i made a deliberate point to read both hitchen's God is Not Great and Dawkins' The God Delusion to see what the most prominent atheists of today had to say about religion--as a sort of test of my faith

will you dare to present the same justification to Ghawth-e-A3zdham who forbade his murid from reading a philosophy book?

Will you give the same justification to Ahmad ibn Hanbal, Abu Hanifa, and Al-Ghazali amongst others who forbade their students from reading the tripe of philosophers and the mu3tazila and others, who only had the noble intention of refuting the deviant thoughts found in such books?

Will you also give the same justification to Ala Hazrat too, who ALSO forbade people from reading books of deviants, and so on?

Mind you, when talking about the murid of the Ghawth, this is a first generation murid we're talking about, who directly sat with the Ghawth, and took knowledge and fayd from him directly, first-hand, in person - not namesake Qadiris like us who in any case can't even follow the 40th or so khaleefa in the chain. When we're talking 'student' of Abu Hanifa or Al-Ghazali or Ahmad ibn Hanbal, we're not implying a modern day student of knowledge but a mammoth scholar. Rahimahumullah.

Just what makes you so much more confident than your own Ghawth?

I will definitely take your advice to read more Islamic books too.

Sorry, I don't mean to be pedantic and nasty, but shouldn't the "too" be used for books on other topics not related to religion, rather than the other way round.

Priorities!

(It's a universal problem with all of us, myself included. As Shaykh Ilyas Attar, hafizdhahullah, implies, we in our times give second priority to religion)

It is an Orientalist attempt to try and give the impression that Islam is anti-intellectual.

Does their opinion matter to us?

Should it matter to us?

Do we seek respect/appraisal/appreciation from them?

you can take as many jabs at me, but see above, what will you say to the mentioned aimma. i'm a nobody who is just repeating what i understand that they have said/done.

Please explain to a thick like me what's wrong with reading both the Malfuzat of Sayyidi Alahazrat one week and The Demon Haunted World by Sagan the next?

The devil runs in you like your blood and seeks to prey on your faith.

Safeguarding your faith is of the utmost importance.

When people like the sahaba and Abu Hanifa worried about safeguarding their faiths, we don't even exist! Kisi ginti mein hee nahin hain hum!

Your own Shaykh Ilyas Attar and Ala Hazrat have quoted our elders as saying, "he who does not worry about losing his faith, probably will lose it before he dies". Kattar Sunni tried to give you a subtle hint, but you work best with direct bluntness bro:

http://www.sunniport.com/masabih/sho...8&postcount=58

i is not as dumb az i might appear

no, you're not; you're dumber.

sorry, but i just have a thing with bluffs and reverse psychology. i can't not call. to even it out, just so you don't think i'm trying to one-up on you, it's a nafsanic disorder i have

anyway, alhamdulillah that you're researching into the sharh of that hadith and the dua, and we ask Allah for all the good things His Blessed Habeeb asked Him and we seek His refuge from all the evil things His Blessed Habeeb sought refuge from, 3alaihis salam.