Deism

[TheMuslimAgorist]

Originally Posted by SuleimanalMuslim

Yeah, but that still does not establish with certainty what the purpose of life is. The only way is through revelation, which they reject the whole notion of. This is clear absurd Kufr, not befitting someone with an intellect.

Look I agree with you theologically, but I hope if you ever meet a deist face to face you'll avoid calling their beliefs absurd or not befitting of intellect. There is no faster way to sour someone on whatever you're selling. And it's just not true.

It is not absurd to lack belief in revelation if you've never had access it.

Just imagine if you had never read the Quran and never met a Muslim. Does belief in revelation erupt naturally from fitra? Even if it does, where do you look? The Bible? They reject the Bible because of it's absurdity, and lack of appeal to intellect.

So imagine you're this person, who has spent their life in private contemplation of God, and dissatisfaction with the revelation prevalent in their culture. Then one day you meet a Muslim. The Muslim presents ideas which sound familiar to your Christian upbringing, and then he tell you that you're stupid for not just accepting it... something every priest has told you since childhood. How easy would it be for you to reject that Muslim as readily as you rejected Christianity.

If you believe that your revelation appeals to the intellect, as I do, than you can never begin presenting it someone by insulting their intellect. If they truly lack rational faculties, than there is no hope in reasoning with them, and it is you engages in absurdity by trying. If they do possess rational faculties, than you do them a grave disservice by treating them like they don't.